My reaction to that commercial is SEETHING DEATH!!! Mow the lawn, indeed. Not until all the men int the world start conforming to my gothy waif boy aesthetic. Then we'll talk.
Also... it's so... so... pink. *shudders*
And the solution to sadness is trimming yer bush? Fer realz? You mean all this time I've been depressed about my lack of a real job, eating problems, and social isolation due to living in Port Shithole and all I had to do was shave and it would have fixed it? Yeeeeeah... 'Scuze me, but I have to go twitch now.
My reaction to that commercial is SEETHING DEATH!!! Mow the lawn, indeed. Not until all the men int the world start conforming to my gothy waif boy aesthetic. Then we'll talk.
Also... it's so... so... pink. *shudders*
And the solution to sadness is trimming yer bush? Fer realz? You mean all this time I've been depressed about my lack of a real job, eating problems, and social isolation due to living in Port Shithole and all I had to do was shave and it would have fixed it? Yeeeeeah... 'Scuze me, but I have to go twitch now.
Pretty much what Salon.com said... though I can't find the link right now :(
I'm Rambles, and I support Story's message (well most of it, I dunno what a "gothy waif boy aesthetic" is but I'm guessing something along the lines of my roommate--(unless it involves shaving?))!
Oh, and the seething death emotion before one has intricately spelunk'd into the mind of the maker of the commercial (were they being serious about applying stereotypes?)--but from a New Criticism approach it would def be appropriate to evoke anger at the context of the characters.
I'm Rambles, and I support Story's message (well most of it, I dunno what a "gothy waif boy aesthetic" is but I'm guessing something along the lines of my roommate--(unless it involves shaving?))!
Oh, and the seething death emotion before one has intricately spelunk'd into the mind of the maker of the commercial (were they being serious about applying stereotypes?)--but from a New Criticism approach it would def be appropriate to evoke anger at the context of the characters.
I <3 you.
Also, this one is even worse. I will cause the death of millions with my unshorn legs!
And I investimugated, and discovered the Salon article. Thank you for mentioning it!
This ad is ridiculous, but I don't think it's any surprise that being well groomed is the standard for attractiveness. Men in a professional environment have to be clean-shaven, or if they have a beard, trimmed. Everyone gets haircuts on a regular basis. Many men, if not most, trim their pubic hair, and possibly also their body hair. I don't think it's too out of line for women to do the same.
No, but it is out of line for a razor company to run a series of advertisements pushing them to do so. I've not been cajoled by the media into shaving my nether regions, at least not yet.
Oh, and I don't get haircuts on a regular basis. :)
This ad is ridiculous, but I don't think it's any surprise that being well groomed is the standard for attractiveness. Men in a professional environment have to be clean-shaven, or if they have a beard, trimmed. Everyone gets haircuts on a regular basis. Many men, if not most, trim their pubic hair, and possibly also their body hair. I don't think it's too out of line for women to do the same.
As a counterpoint to your comment, the one that Chris linked was so over the top it was silly, and kind of cute if annoying and icky-pink. The second one, the one that I linked, completely linked the whole not shaving thing (this time legs) with a metric butt ton of shame... and there's the crux of it I think. It's kind of stupid to be ashamed of body hair. Humans have it. Some choose to alter it, others don't. It's when advertisers jump in and try to force one particular aesthetic in order to push a product that gets a little annoying... it gets infuriating when they do this by linking it with shame. Most of the men and women I talk to (granted, skewed sample, I went to New College, home of hairy straight women, shorn lesbians, and dirty hippies of every stripe) don't care one way or the other about the presence and neatness of body hair. Until recently, it's usually only been the publicly visible body hair that has been the target of neatness messages from the media-- and those were the examples that you first listed, facial hair, head hair.
My thoughts on the adverts: the kitsch factor of the adverts? Cute. The shame factor (whether overt like in the second or more subtle like in the first)? Not so cool. Also, the African/Asian stereotypes therein portrayed make me twitchy, too.
Also, damn that stupid jingle. It's stuck in my head.
Finally, the sphinx cat switch-out for the "shaved pussy" eye slap was... it just was.
Personally, if it's not too much of a hassle, I'll keep a beard, or shave, or whatever, if that's something that my partner says will make me more attractive to her. After all, she looks at it more than I do :).
It was an ad on a The Who Kyrics website. It was reminiscent of the 'Mot the law' video and thought I'd share :p
(also recall my roommate and his friend bickering about shaving their Stranglethorn Vale)
Fuck that. I only do it to go swimming, cause that shit fucking itches, like, painful itching. Waxing, hecka painful. It is NOT comparable to shaving one's beard or a simple trim, trust me. It's also not comparable to shaving ones legs or armpits in my opinion, which I personally like doing, because I like the feel of my smooth legs, and find the sweaty factor unpleasant when I have unshaved pits (thanks to my experiences with a broken wrist). I am also lucky to have a partner who likes my fluff. Yes, being attractive to your partner is one thing, but expecting that person to go through a vast amount of physical discomfort they actively don't enjoy is another. I also think that hairlessness / minimal hair, generally an indicator of sexual immaturity, becoming a sexually desireable and EXPECTED trait pretty fucked up.
I've known quite a few people, the majority of them girls/women, who seem to be literally repulsed by hair. It could be a beard, a hairy chest or whatever, but it seemed to absolutely repulse them. I wonder if hairiness has less to do with sexual maturity etc., and more with some sort of association of hairlessness being cleanliness.
I've known quite a few people, the majority of them girls/women, who seem to be literally repulsed by hair. It could be a beard, a hairy chest or whatever, but it seemed to absolutely repulse them. I wonder if hairiness has less to do with sexual maturity etc., and more with some sort of association of hairlessness being cleanliness.
Vasya what the fuck that beard is turning me OFF, shave it.
hehe, that's some weird anime (I think I misspelled the title, but it's close enough) that is basically all the chaos and randomness of the world mixed together and then spat into Loki's nose, then blown into a handkerchief and wiped on a piece of cartoon paper.
*Ahem* I goes like this
"Fist of the nose hair! Attack!" and on, and on, and on. Seriously, I'm worried about Japan sometimes and will probably rethink the dimensions one can watch Godzilla through...perhaps its some sort of high-brow film about the mentality and perception of the Japanese culture and how large and monstrous it has grown? (and later, how it spread to America and was met with our own monstrous perspective in a clash that spawned many tiny minds ready to consume us all)
(Also, HELP! I think my head needs an anchor....A really heavy one. Made of lead.)
Crazy Rambles
Fri, 04/03/2009 - 7:37amIt's like an Old Navy commercial gone horribly, horribly wrong.
Brian
Fri, 04/03/2009 - 11:34amI support this cause.
Trumby
Fri, 04/03/2009 - 11:55amFazil
Mon, 04/06/2009 - 7:31am*hides from Story's wrath*
Qyn
Mon, 04/06/2009 - 1:31pmXD
Does she check these forums anymore? Man I'd love to get her reaction to that commercial!
Narrative
Mon, 04/06/2009 - 2:52pmMy reaction to that commercial is SEETHING DEATH!!! Mow the lawn, indeed. Not until all the men int the world start conforming to my gothy waif boy aesthetic. Then we'll talk.
Also... it's so... so... pink. *shudders*
And the solution to sadness is trimming yer bush? Fer realz? You mean all this time I've been depressed about my lack of a real job, eating problems, and social isolation due to living in Port Shithole and all I had to do was shave and it would have fixed it? Yeeeeeah... 'Scuze me, but I have to go twitch now.
Qyn
Mon, 04/06/2009 - 3:11pmShaving solves all of life's woes. I'm going to try it tonight!
Furiouso
Mon, 04/06/2009 - 4:27pmPretty much what Salon.com said... though I can't find the link right now :(
Crazy Rambles
Mon, 04/06/2009 - 6:52pmI'm Rambles, and I support Story's message (well most of it, I dunno what a "gothy waif boy aesthetic" is but I'm guessing something along the lines of my roommate--(unless it involves shaving?))!
Oh, and the seething death emotion before one has intricately spelunk'd into the mind of the maker of the commercial (were they being serious about applying stereotypes?)--but from a New Criticism approach it would def be appropriate to evoke anger at the context of the characters.
Narrative
Tue, 04/07/2009 - 12:04amI <3 you.
Also, this one is even worse. I will cause the death of millions with my unshorn legs!
And I investimugated, and discovered the Salon article. Thank you for mentioning it!
Crazy Rambles
Tue, 04/07/2009 - 6:53amThe French Garden Party was...weird in its own way too. (Stereotypes! Now in TechiniCulture!)
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Tue, 04/07/2009 - 8:36amJohn
Tue, 04/07/2009 - 4:06pmThis ad is ridiculous, but I don't think it's any surprise that being well groomed is the standard for attractiveness. Men in a professional environment have to be clean-shaven, or if they have a beard, trimmed. Everyone gets haircuts on a regular basis. Many men, if not most, trim their pubic hair, and possibly also their body hair. I don't think it's too out of line for women to do the same.
Fap
Tue, 04/07/2009 - 4:28pmI'm both offended and intrigued.
Fazil
Tue, 04/07/2009 - 5:25pmNo, but it is out of line for a razor company to run a series of advertisements pushing them to do so. I've not been cajoled by the media into shaving my nether regions, at least not yet.
Oh, and I don't get haircuts on a regular basis. :)
yori
Tue, 04/07/2009 - 6:40pmXD
Narrative
Tue, 04/07/2009 - 7:07pmAs a counterpoint to your comment, the one that Chris linked was so over the top it was silly, and kind of cute if annoying and icky-pink. The second one, the one that I linked, completely linked the whole not shaving thing (this time legs) with a metric butt ton of shame... and there's the crux of it I think. It's kind of stupid to be ashamed of body hair. Humans have it. Some choose to alter it, others don't. It's when advertisers jump in and try to force one particular aesthetic in order to push a product that gets a little annoying... it gets infuriating when they do this by linking it with shame. Most of the men and women I talk to (granted, skewed sample, I went to New College, home of hairy straight women, shorn lesbians, and dirty hippies of every stripe) don't care one way or the other about the presence and neatness of body hair. Until recently, it's usually only been the publicly visible body hair that has been the target of neatness messages from the media-- and those were the examples that you first listed, facial hair, head hair.
My thoughts on the adverts: the kitsch factor of the adverts? Cute. The shame factor (whether overt like in the second or more subtle like in the first)? Not so cool. Also, the African/Asian stereotypes therein portrayed make me twitchy, too.
Also, damn that stupid jingle. It's stuck in my head.
Finally, the sphinx cat switch-out for the "shaved pussy" eye slap was... it just was.
Vasya
Wed, 04/08/2009 - 7:49amPersonally, if it's not too much of a hassle, I'll keep a beard, or shave, or whatever, if that's something that my partner says will make me more attractive to her. After all, she looks at it more than I do :).
Crazy Rambles
Wed, 06/24/2009 - 9:56amIt seems they have a male-oriented version too <.<;
Minus the musical/singing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TiJNewpCnY
Ariwyn
Wed, 06/24/2009 - 9:26pmBram..why were you looking at male lawn mowing videos? Something we should know?
Qyn
Thu, 06/25/2009 - 6:07am^
Crazy Rambles
Thu, 06/25/2009 - 6:51amIt was an ad on a The Who Kyrics website. It was reminiscent of the 'Mot the law' video and thought I'd share :p
(also recall my roommate and his friend bickering about shaving their Stranglethorn Vale)
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Thu, 06/25/2009 - 3:30pmShit can get real itchy.
Beth
Sun, 06/28/2009 - 9:14pmYeah, I've seen this all over the feminist blogs.
Fuck that. I only do it to go swimming, cause that shit fucking itches, like, painful itching. Waxing, hecka painful. It is NOT comparable to shaving one's beard or a simple trim, trust me. It's also not comparable to shaving ones legs or armpits in my opinion, which I personally like doing, because I like the feel of my smooth legs, and find the sweaty factor unpleasant when I have unshaved pits (thanks to my experiences with a broken wrist). I am also lucky to have a partner who likes my fluff. Yes, being attractive to your partner is one thing, but expecting that person to go through a vast amount of physical discomfort they actively don't enjoy is another. I also think that hairlessness / minimal hair, generally an indicator of sexual immaturity, becoming a sexually desireable and EXPECTED trait pretty fucked up.
Also Sarah Haskins fucking rocks: http://current.com/items/89975180_sarah-haskins-in-target-women-your-garden.htm
Vasya
Sun, 06/28/2009 - 9:29pmI've known quite a few people, the majority of them girls/women, who seem to be literally repulsed by hair. It could be a beard, a hairy chest or whatever, but it seemed to absolutely repulse them. I wonder if hairiness has less to do with sexual maturity etc., and more with some sort of association of hairlessness being cleanliness.
Crazy Rambles
Mon, 06/29/2009 - 1:10pm"My Sarlack the sand pit" XD (spelling on that?)
Humans and their rainbow-array of preferences. 'Standard' changes like the clouds up above.
Qyn
Mon, 06/29/2009 - 1:35pmVasya what the fuck that beard is turning me OFF, shave it.
Crazy Rambles
Mon, 06/29/2009 - 1:50pmBobobo-bo-bobo-bo-bobobo <.<;; Speaking of hair...particularly: nose hair
Qyn
Mon, 06/29/2009 - 2:16pmBrambles.
Tell me that isn't the sound of you shaving......PLEASE.
Crazy Rambles
Mon, 06/29/2009 - 3:13pmNo
ROFLMAO
hehe, that's some weird anime (I think I misspelled the title, but it's close enough) that is basically all the chaos and randomness of the world mixed together and then spat into Loki's nose, then blown into a handkerchief and wiped on a piece of cartoon paper.
*Ahem* I goes like this
"Fist of the nose hair! Attack!" and on, and on, and on. Seriously, I'm worried about Japan sometimes and will probably rethink the dimensions one can watch Godzilla through...perhaps its some sort of high-brow film about the mentality and perception of the Japanese culture and how large and monstrous it has grown? (and later, how it spread to America and was met with our own monstrous perspective in a clash that spawned many tiny minds ready to consume us all)
(Also, HELP! I think my head needs an anchor....A really heavy one. Made of lead.)
Qyn
Tue, 06/30/2009 - 6:43amduh nuh nuh nuh
Crazy Rambles
Tue, 06/30/2009 - 8:50am